I'd be interested in what anyone has to say.
The first time I logged on tonight, I was looking at a particular blog. I didn't write anything, but I was a little shocked. The blog was posted by a new believer, but she didn't shock me. I've heard the same questions asked before by new converts. What shocked me was some of the responses.
First I want to say this. When you join a church, or give your life to Christ, you come under Christ's authority and the authority of the church in question. Christ's authority takes precedence. Your leaders must abide by the Word of God. Trust me when I say if everything about the Bible is murky, the only thing that wouldn't be is the responsibilities of the leaders. You can point them out to your leader if you feel they are doing something wrong. If they cannot get in line with the Word of God, then you save your own soul and leave.
The Bible does not play about the purpose it sets out to accomplish. The writer of Hebrews was not afraid to say "For the word of God is quick, and powerful, and sharper than any twoedged sword, piercing even to the dividing asunder of soul and spirit, and of the joints and marrow, and is a discerner of the thoughts and intents of the heart." (Hebrews 4:12). It goes where you don't want it to go. It puts your business out there. Now if you have decided that you want to go to heaven Christ's way, then you gotta do what you gotta do.
The Bible says no fornication. Cut it out! The Bible acts you to trust in God...start trusting in Him. Its not going to be easy, but you gotta try and fall and learn and grow.
Now, it might be hard for you to drop a relationship, or to stop fornicating in your relationship. However, you came to be blest.You know how to get blessed? Worship. How does one worship? Not by sending up empty praises. An important part of worship is obedience! You be obedient and start tossing the skeletons out so you can get good and ready to receive.You need to empty the container that you're expecting to receive the blessing in."Sow to yourselves in righteousness, reap in mercy; break up your fallow ground: for it is time to seek the LORD, till he come and rain righteousness upon you"(Hosea 10:12).
So if you go to church and the Pastor preaches about fornication and it reaches your heart, do accordingly and stop complaining about being judged or you aren't going to grow. "Do not be deceived, God is not mocked, for whatever a man sows, that he will reap."(Galatians 6:7). Whatever you are putting into your life, that's what you are going to get out of it. So you sourpusses and sad sacks...suck it up and start sowing happiness. The word of God searches us and touches the stuff we'd rather it not reach. That's what you get for walking into the House of God. I'd be thankful for it.Because it means that God is trying to get me to clean up and not be weighed down and left behind."For the time is come that judgment must begin at the house of God: and if it first begin at us, what shall the end be of them that obey not the gospel of God?"(1 Peter 4:17).
I know that you might be scared, I know. My mother is the bravest woman I know, because she was raising three girls alone when she gave her life to God. If she even thought about depending on a relationship to bring her through, God showed her that person's feet of clay. She depended on him, she's not a millionaire, but she's a homeowner,with her car paid off and a secure job. She's blessed, because she didn't start off with all that.
This is where I'm questioning your trust. If God is all-powerful, all magnificent, all glorious, able to add all things to you, what are you scared of? Its tough, but Jesus never promised anybody easy. I've never seen anyone just pick up a big old cross and walk steady. Uh Uh, but Jesus says pick up your cross and follow me.Every trial we overcome is a jewel in our crown. We gotta suffer with him to reign with him. Its the best suffering though, because you're not alone going through it.
Now a church that judges its members needs a good beating. How are you helping save that soul?"Now it is required that those who have been given a trust must prove faithful.I care very little if I am judged by you or by any human court; indeed, I do not even judge myself. My conscience is clear, but that does not make me innocent. It is the Lord who judges me.Therefore judge nothing before the appointed time; wait till the Lord comes. He will bring to light what is hidden in darkness and will expose the motives of men's hearts. At that time each will receive his praise from God."(1 Corinthians 4:2-5) The Leader should not be coming down on you but giving you an arm to help you to stand.They have been given a trust-you. They should not see a mother struggling with her kids and just letting it slide. I can't find the verse right now...but God through Paul tells us to put up or shut up. Stop saying "Oh the Lord will bless you," and not helping. God could use you to be the blessing! You know what the tithe and offerings are for? For the minister? Hahaha! Its so that there is meat in God's storehouse..meaning, a member needs some money to make rent, the church should give it to her! A brother needs food? The church should give him some groceries. That's what that money is for.Hence, when the church operates as the HOUSE OF GOD, like it ought, a new believer shouldn't be stressed out.
Now that that is said...the real shocking thing that I refered to above, is from a comment where the person was like, just come on over to my church and we'll hook you up. And also managed to dig all the Protestant churches. What I garnered is that basically, its okay for her to take her and her babies to hell, because there is no purgatory,so that you can be right? What if the church that you send her to is no better than the first then what? I've sat in Catholic churches for 15 years, and never once have I heard that fornication is right. So you telling her she won't be judged for it is bunk, because the first time she goes to Confession, she'll come out feeling guilty.
I'm Apostolic, and you know what my Pastor said that shocked me to the core? That the Apostolic Church isn't the only church that saves people. I'd been so into the denomination war, I just thought everyone was. Then I learned that people will come from the east and the west to the marriage supper, just as long as they live right. No one has an exclusive claim on the gospel, because it can't be chained.
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Who then is Paul, and who is Apollos, but ministers by whom ye believed, even as the Lord gave to every man?I have planted, Apollos watered; but God gave the increase.So then neither is he that planteth any thing, neither he that watereth; but God that giveth the increase.Now he that planteth and he that watereth are one: and every man shall receive his own reward according to his own labour.For we are labourers together with God: ye are God's husbandry, ye are God's building.According to the grace of God which is given unto me, as a wise masterbuilder, I have laid the foundation, and another buildeth thereon. But let every man take heed how he buildeth thereupon.For other foundation can no man lay than that is laid, which is Jesus Christ.
1 Corinthians 3:5-11
You don't need to hammer down another church. Its not necessary. Even if the person were excommunicated tomorrow by the Pope himself, that has no bearings on whether or not they will make it to heaven, cause Jesus himself is the holder of those keys.
You need to trust the message of God and the power of God to hold that person. You can feed them the food of the gospel and water it with a godly example and charity. Just trust the power of God to make it grow.